Is your RA hiring illegals? They don't care about security. RA simply hire guards to make a profit

How is the Selangor State Gov going to address illegal Gated Communities without Planning Permission?

Soon, all Local Councils' procedures, practices and processes will be streamlined for a more systematic management and enforcement... by standardizing the various guidelines; planning permission and legislations; checklists for application submissions; license approvals; the lodging of complaints and apps; engineering, technical and building plans; the coordination of district boundaries/local authorities; contractors and tender management; and advanced delivery systems for all stakeholders and taxpayers.

By providing a clear standard of reference for all, this will reduce any grey areas and help curb any corruption... paving the way for better planning, coordination and enforcements. At the same time this will address illegal developments with no planning permission, such as the proliferation of illegal Gated Communities in Selangor. Now there is no more excuse for the lack of enforcements.

Unscrupulous RAs operating unlawful gated community schemes that do not follow the new SGKV blueprint guidelines would be taken action immediately. Certain quarters with selfish agendas that do not respect 'the rule of law' and do not respect the community will no longer be able to do as they wish or take advantage of the residents and victimize the community.

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We hope the new KPKT minister will address poor local govt policies and enforcement on all informal GnG schemes (GnG schemes with No Planning Permission)

What the Local Councils initially approved for Guarded Neighbourhood schemes now have become illegal Gated Communities. How? 

It is because unscrupulous RAs have gone against the Council's guidelines, flouting laws to implement their own version of the scheme in non-private residences.

Corrupt RAs have turned these guarded schemes to illegal gated communities by implementing prohibited procedures such as blocking public roads, guards asking the public for ID (such as Driver's License) and some even have gone further by implementing auto access card system for the neighbourhood that majority of the residents do not want. Now, this is the problem!

The above procedures introduced by the RAs are clearly against the laws in normal terrace or link houses under the jurisdiction of local councils. This type of informal gated schemes with no planning permission from the authorities that are run by RAs, are actually unlawful and a nuisance in public housing schemes.

Some say this type of illegal "GnG" only benefits the black market or syndicates - profiteering under the guise of providing neighbourhood security. The rights of all law-abiding citizens must be respected. (Haksaksama dan Kesejahteraan Komuniti). Many informal gated schemes in Selangor are not only illegal but are divisive and a hindrance in today's society.

We hope the new government will implement new housing policies that are inclusive, harmonious and in line with our National Unity Blueprint. And most importantly the authorities must protect us (the tax-paying residents) from unscrupulous individuals who want to enrich themselves in the name of providing neighbourhood security.

It's also time to tackle the proliferation of illegal gated community schemes that are plaguing the country and causing so much problems for the communities. The government must put a stop to informal gated communities in non-private properties (operated by RAs) that are breaking multiple laws. 

We need new policies that prevent certain quarters from taking advantage for their own selfish agenda and duping residents into signing up and paying "security" fee every month. (The govt must also try to help the communities on the costs of living and to eradicate "black economy").

What the majority of residents wanted initially... now have become the minority (continue to pay monthly "security fee" for as long as they are living here). 

Proposed New Local Government Policies:

To ensure that such schemes are operated within guidelines with sufficient consent and based on what the majority of the residents truly want, we hope the following new amendments will be included into the requirements by the Local/ Municipal Councils before approvals are given:

1. Fresh new written consents from the residents must be obtained up-to-date yearly, officially, in a neutral environment without any pressure or influence, and not only once during the initial application by the RA.
2. It must reflect the current consents given by the residents every year, and not based on incorrect outdated consents given years ago. (This is because majority of the residents do not know what they were getting into at the beginning or were misguided. Also many residents prefer to drop-off the scheme along the way; some have moved out; and some do not want the scheme later on for obvious reasons after being coerced earlier on without any knowledge on the matter. 
3. The continuity of the scheme should also be based on the level of satisfaction and approval of the local community in terms of ethical conducts by the RA, guidelines adherence by the RA, community services and the compliance with the Rule-of-Law.
4. A Notice Board containing all the updated relevant information must be put up near the entrance or guardhouse for the residents/public/authorities information - with details of the scheme and RA (e.g. the entire RA committee members' name, address, contact no, email, in addition to the scheme's type, approval period, security guards/company details, etc.)
5. A booklet containing all the relevant information on Guarded Neighborhood schemes and KRT (Kawasan Rukun Tetangga with Skim Rondaan Sukarela (SRS) or Voluntary Patrol Schemes should be published and made available to all the residents before deciding whether they agree on what to sign up or not. The information should include the legality of the schemes, any related laws and acts (eg: Akta JPJ, Akta JPBD, etc.), the guidelines from the municipal council, what the RA and security guards can and cannot do, what is allowed, what is illegal, the rules, regulations, requirements, etc.
6. Other information on the different types of properties such as strata vs private vs non-private, explaining the basic differences between them; management corporation vs joint management body vs residents association; KRT vs GnG schemes, Rukun Tetangga Act, input from Jabatan Perancangan Bandar dan Desa (JPBD), and the recommendation from PDRM, etc.
7. Other information explaining the differences in the various gated and guarded schemes available in the country (gated community scheme vs guarded neighborhood scheme); etc.
8. More rigorous approval requirements audits and residents' feedbacks, etc.
9. Periodical enforcements by the authorities to ensure compliance, etc. 

Landed property developers should also review their policies, ethics and marketing strategies with regard to this matter. Property developers must be clear on their business definition and target market. 

They must not help facilitate the proliferation of informal gated communities as this is not in line with the national unity blueprint for the country. Are they sure this is a healthy trend or just a trend started by certain quarters? 

It is time property developers work with the Ministry of Unity and the Local Housing Ministry to safeguard the harmony and well-being of the community in general. Illegal gated communities are a hindrance in today's society. If we allow such divisive schemes to continue and flourish, we can forget about achieving a united society.

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To the RA - please follow the guidelines given by MPKlang, and inform your security guards accordingly! Please respect our rights as more than half of the residents here did not agree to sustain any type of scheme at all.

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What the Local Council (MPKlang) initially approved for Guarded Neighbourhood schemes here now have become illegal Gated Communities. How? 

It is because corrupt RAs have gone against the Town and Country Planning Dept (Plan Malaysia- JPBD, KPKT) and the Local Council's guidelines, flouting laws to implement their own version of the scheme without sufficient consent or approval. This has also being spelled out clearly under the National Housing Board guidelines.

Currently, corrupt RAs are taking advantage of the massive confusion in the Gated and Guarded Community schemes to operate whatever schemes they want whichever way they want without any regards for the laws and the rights of others.

Unscrupulous RAs have turned these guarded schemes to illegal gated communities by implementing prohibited procedures such as blocking public roads, guards asking the public for ID (such as Driver's License), implemented auto access card system the majority of residents do not want and making us pay monthly 'security fees' ...now, this is the problem!

The above procedures introduced by the RAs are clearly against the laws in normal terrace houses residences under the jurisdiction of local councils. This type of informal gated communities run by RAs are divisive, a hindrance to the community and a nuisance in today's society.

Some say this type of illegal "GnG" only benefits the black market or syndicates - profiteering under the guise of providing neighbourhood security.

And since when is the RA allowed to implement auto access card system in a guarded neighbourhood scheme without sufficient consent and approval? Why did the RAs implemented it despite illegal to do so? This is not a legal gated community (this is only a guarded neighbourhood).

Even though this has been spelled out clearly in the guidelines, unscrupulous RAs still blatantly disregarded it. Is there an element of corruption along the process, or the RA simply think that they can do whatever they want?

It's time we all reset the system. Let's do away with corruption, abuse of power and respect the Rule-of-Law. 'Little Napoleons' have no place in our society.

Is it legal or is it illegal? It's time we all reset the system. Let's do away with corruption, abuse of power and respect the Rule-of-Law. 'Little Napoleons' have no place in our society.

We all (RAs, Municipal Councils and residents) should standardize and follow the guidelines set by the Town and Country Planning Dept (PlanMalaysia, JPBD KPKT, Malaysia). 

At the same time, the respective Municipal Council must enforce the guidelines proactively and take action on RAs that don't comply. Not wait until reports /complaints being lodged. ("Authorities will turn a blind eye as long as no official complaints received" - is not acceptable anymore) !!

Due to the lack of enforcement by the authorities, it's no longer just guarded neighbourhoods but have become illegal gated communities.

The Silent Majority

BBR

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Is your RA chairman an ethical law-abiding chairman or a GnG conman?

Dear Residents of Informal GnG,

How do you know whether your RA chairman is an ethical law-abiding-citizen chairman or a corrupt conman?

Your chairman is a conman when he breaks multiple laws to implement his own GnG scheme so that he can collect monthly fees (some call it toll, others would call it protection money) from the community.

Your chairman is a conman when he blocks public roads and then start collecting monthly security fees 'toll' from the community, in the name of neighborhood security.

Even though the property developer have clearly stated that the residence is not a gated community, your chairman still want to operate an illegal scheme taking advantage of the grey area and the residents' lack of knowledge in this subject.

Your chairman is a conman when he failed to inform the community the type of scheme that they are only allowed to operate is a guarded neighborhood scheme, not a gated community scheme.

Your chairman is a conman when he failed to inform the residents on the differences between a guarded neighborhood scheme vs. a gated community scheme.

Your chairman is a conman when he failed to inform the residents on the differences between a formal gated community scheme (under private/ strata residences) vs. an informal gated community scheme.

Your chairman is a conman when he operates a guarded neighborhood scheme as if it is a proper gated community scheme. Both schemes are very different, one is legal but the other is actually illegal. (Comparing an illegal scheme to a formal GC scheme is like comparing an apple to a pineapple).

Your chairman is a conman when he failed to inform the community of the limitations of an informal scheme.

Your chairman is a conman when he never inform the community what they "can and cannot do" under the local council guidelines while operating an informal scheme.

Your chairman is a conman when he instructs his security guards to stop and ask people for ID (such as MyKad or Driver's License), even though it is against the laws.

Your chairman is a conman when he instructs his security guards to block the community or anyone that did not join his illegal "GnG" scheme. (Not having a residents' sticker or access card does not give RA the right to stop and check anyone - it is illegal, unlawful and an offence to do so).

Your chairman is a conman when he implements the prohibited card access system in non-private residences without sufficient consent and approval.

Your chairman is a conman when he breaks the laws to stop the community from moving in and out freely. (It is illegal and unlawful requiring residents to register at the guardhouse every time; it is also unlawful to stop the surrounding communities from access).

Your chairman is a conman when he has no regards for the laws, the rights of others and he thinks the entire residence belongs to him. 

Your chairman is a conman when he does not uphold "the rule of law", has selfish agendas, and he imposes his beliefs, values and preferences on others. 

Your chairman is a conman when he hires security guards without the proper license and requirements by KDN.

Your chairman is a conman when he indirectly forced the community to subscribe to his illegal scheme. Your chairman is a conman when he implements the scheme without sufficient consent and without any objections.

Your chairman is a conman when he doesn't organize the yearly Annual General Meetings for the residents and does no other community work for the community except for his GnG scam. 

Your chairman is a conman when he fails to fulfill all requirements by the Registrar of Societies such as the yearly submissions of accounts, audits and AGM minutes of meetings to the ROS.

Your chairman is a conman when he never seek any recommendations or approval from the PDRM District Police Officer before implementing his "neighborhood security" scheme.

Your chairman is a conman when he never considers Rukun Tetangga scheme or Skim Rondaan Sukarela SRS as another option for the community. (He is not interested in KRT because it is FOC for the community - he can't make money from it.)

Above all, your RA chairman should have been more transparent first on the laws, guidelines, rules and regulations of what an informal scheme can and cannot do - and then let the community decide whether they want to sign up or not; not coerce them into joining without any knowledge whatsoever. 

If your chairman didn't do this before implementing his "GnG" scheme, then he is more likely a conman.

Why the people don't see it even though this is so obvious... is mind boggling. Those who still condone to this sort of selfish GnG scam still need a bit of enlightenment. Perhaps they need more time...

For the many, not the few!!

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Below paragraphs highlighted for your ref *(Source: Plan Malaysia, JPBD KPKT - 2019 GP009 Garis Panduan Perancangan dan Penubuhan Skim Komuniti Berpengawal Perumahan Bukan Strata):

It's time we all reset the system. Let's do away with corruption, abuse of power and respect the Rule-of-Law. 'Little Napoleons' have no place in our society.

We all (RAs, Municipal Councils and residents) should standardize and follow the guidelines set by the Town and Country Planning Dept (PlanMalaysia, JPBD KPKT, Malaysia). 

At the same time, the respective Municipal Council must enforce the guidelines proactively and take action on RAs that don't comply. Not wait until reports /complaints being lodged. 

"Authorities will turn a blind eye as long as no official complaints received" - is not good enough!!

Currently, corrupt RAs are taking advantage of the massive confusion in the Gated and Guarded Community schemes to operate whatever schemes they want whichever way they want with no regards for the laws and the rights of others.

Due to the lack of enforcement by the authorities, it's no longer just guarded neighbourhoods but have become illegal gated communities everywhere!

They do not follow the guidelines on what they can and cannot do. And this has resulted in lots of problems for the communities.

There are also some RA committee members that are not clear themselves... what more about the residents!

In a recent survey, the majority of the residents do not want to pay monthly fees to maintain any illegal G&G scheme anymore! It's time the residents take note on this problem seriously.

*(Terima kasih & Penghargaan kpd Plan Malaysia - Jabatan Perancangan Bandar dan Desa, KPKT Malaysia)

Semua syarat seperti di atas ade buat ke takde? Semua pihak Persatuan Penduduk (RA) yang mengendalikan skim komuniti 'G&G' di perumahan bukan strata haruslah beretika dan beradab bukan biadap. 

Semua syarat-syarat dan garis panduan yang telah ditetapkan oleh pihak berkuasa mestilah diikuti dengan sepenuhnya... tapi nampaknya hampir semua Persatuan Penduduk (RA) di sini korup sebab mereka langsung tidak ikut garis panduan yang telah ditetapkan. 

Disebabkan pihak RA tidak mengikuti syarat-syarat dan garis panduan yang telah ditetapkan, maka skim mereka telah menjadi skim G&G haram. Sudah tiba masanya PBT mengambil tindakan tegas.

Cukup-cukuplah... sekian.

Salam 1 Malaysia, Salam Perpaduan

dan Salam Malaysia Madani

Why are the RAs using auto access card /proximity system in Bandar Bukit Raja?

These are certainly not legal gated communities - these are only guarded neighbourhoods. Moreover these are not private nor strata properties - fyi, these are more like illegal 'gated communities'.

Since when are the RAs allowed to implement auto access card/ proximity system despite not having the required 100% consent from the residents? Even strata or private properties are required to have 100% agreement from the residents!

Despite the RAs know that it is illegal to use auto access card system here, they have blatantly disregarded the guidelines /laws, and still implemented them anyhow for their own agenda.

So, where is the rule-of-law here? What happened to "Kedaulatan Undang-Undang" under Rukun Negara? Are the RAs here unable to follow the rule of law, unethical or corrupt?

The residents now are urging the relevant authorities to investigate and put a stop to these illegal practices asap. Residents are thereby urged not to support these RAs anymore.

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Drug traffickers are using houses within GnG and security personnel to store their "merchandise"

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Cops are calling for more voluntary patrol schemes (Kawasan Rukun Tetangga - Skim Rondaan Sukarela SRS)... not illegal gated communities!

Please note that only SRS members under KRT (Skim Rondaan Sukarela under the Rukun Tetangga Act 2012) were empowered to stop and check individuals and vehicles entering their areas. 

Fyi, your RA's security guards were not empowered to do so.

Now, majority of residents want to implement Kawasan Rukun Tetangga (KRT) in their neighbourhood, not informal gated community !!

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Beware of illegal GnG schemes by corrupt RAs that are flouting guidelines and making residents pay

Why do we categorized the schemes here as illegal? Because the RAs here have broken all the laws and went against the guidelines given by the local council. 

The approved schemes were only meant for Guarded Neighborhood schemes and not for Gated Community schemes. (Even though they were originally legal Guarded Neighborhood schemes, but because the RAs have flouted the laws and guidelines, they have become illegal Gated Community schemes.)

So, hopefully now you understand the actual problem here.

Looks like none of the RAs follow any of the guidelines at all..

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"Skim GnG yang tidak formal" (skim berpagar yg tidak sah)  adalah perosak kepada kesejahteraan komuniti dan perpaduan masyarakat.

Semua Persatuan Penduduk digesa tubuhkan Kawasan Rukun Tetangga KRT dan Skim Rondaan Sukarela SRS untuk menggantikan skim berpagar yang tidak formal. Skim berpagar hanya dibenarkan di kediaman atau taman perumahan persendirian /strata sahaja.

"Skim Komuniti Berpagar Informal yang semakin berleluasa di negara ini merupakan industri gelap yang dapat menjana banyak keuntungan kepada syndicate gelap yang juga menggunakan perkhidmatan pengawal keselamatan daripada kongsi gelap."

If your residence is not a legal gated community, don't go and start an illegal one

Please do not implement or consent to informal "GnG" housing scheme in your own neighbourhood. If it is not a legal gated community, don't go and start an illegal one. Fyi, not everyone wants to live in a gated or guarded community. Please do not impose your values on others. Don't try to form an RA to coerce residents into signing up illegal gated or guarded scheme please!

If you want to live in a gated community, there are many legal and proper "GnG" developments in Selangor. If your concerns are privacy and security, then by all means move to a proper "GnG" residence. There are many renowned award-winning developers such as Sime Darby Property that are offering top-notch security features that come with perimeter power fencing, CCTV surveillance, visitors management system, 24-hour guard patrolling system, emergency panic-button, call-assist, etc...

There are plenty of legal GnG residences in Selangor you can call home. Please go find one okay!

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RAs can also start Kawasan Rukun Tetangga KRT instead of GnG if they are sincere...

Residents, please do not condone to any form of illegal gated community scheme by corrupt RA.

For the many not the few..

The Silent Majority

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Saudara-saudari sekalian... jangan kena scam !

Skim komuniti berpagar jenis "formal" dan jenis "tidak formal" adalah tidak sama. Pelaksanaan kedua-dua jenis skim komuniti ini harus dibezakan. Komuniti berpagar formal adalah skim yang lebih senang diurus kerana ia adalah sejenis skim perumahan swasta yang memiliki hakmilik stratanya sendiri.

Disebabkan bukan ramai orang yang tahu sangat tentang perbezaan ini, pihak RA yang korup telah mengambil kesempatan untuk melaksanakan skim berpagar di kediaman awam yang menyalahi undang-undang.

Pelbagai kesalahan dilakukan seperti menghalang kenderaan, jalanraya awam dihalang, permintaan dokumen pengenalan seperti MyKad dan Lesen Memandu oleh pengawal keselamatan, penggunaan kad akses automatik yang dilarang dan sebagainya.

Akibatnya kesejahteraan, keharmonian dan perpaduan penduduk dan komuniti sekitar terjejas dengan teruk.

Walaupun kediaman yang dimaksudkan ini bukan jenis harta persendirian atau hakmilik strata, namun pelbagai skim kawalan tidak formal telah dilaksanakan oleh pihak-pihak tertentu, dan walaupun ianya merupakan skim tanpa sebarang unsur paksaan, ramai penduduk masih membayar untuk menyertai skim kawalan di kediaman mereka atas ketakutan dan sebab-sebab tertentu yang lain. Dan walaupun mereka membantah, mereka tidak berani mengeluarkan suara.

Ini semua telah menimbulkan perbalahan dan sengketa di kalangan penduduk dan komuniti. Nampaknya ada pihak-pihak tertentu yang tidak hiraukan undang-undang sediada. Jadi, apa telah terjadi kepada "Rukun Negara - Kedaulatan Undang-Undang?"

Kita sebagai rakyat prihatin yang sayangkan negara ingin menyeru kepada kerajaan terutamanya kepada pihak berkuasa di Selangor supaya mengambil tindakan ke atas skim-skim berpagar yang "tidak formal" terutamanya di daerah Klang dan Setia Alam yang tidak mengikuti syarat, garis panduan dan menyalahi undang-undang.

Masalah ini telah berlarutan kian lama dan pihak berkuasa yang berkaitan sepatutnya lebih prihatin dalam menjaga kebajikan dan kepentingan rakyat jelata secara umum, bukan kepentingan golongan tertentu. Hak semua warganegara harus dipelihara.

Komuniti di taman-taman perumahan (rumah teres 2 tingkat) di sekitar Selangor telah di belenggu oleh wabak GnG haram yang berleluasa dan penduduk sekarang sedang mengeluh menghadapi pelbagai masalah seperti halangan jalanraya awam, menghalang kenderaan daripada keluar masuk, penggunaan sistem kad akses automatik yang tidak dibenarkan, kesalahan daripada permintaan MyKad atau lesen memandu oleh pengawal keselamatan, pengambilan pengawal keselamatan yang tidak berlesen untuk bertugas dan sebagainya.

Skim berpagar yang formal atau sahih patut hanya dibenarkan di kediaman swasta atau strata yang eksklusif sahaja, bukan di taman-taman perumahan umum di bawah PBT.

Cadangan kita ialah hanya skim Kawasan Rukun Tetangga (KRT) dan Skim Rondaan Sukarela (SRS) dibenarkan di taman-taman perumahan di bawah PBT seperti yang dipromosikan semula oleh pihak kerajaan pusat baru-baru ini. 

Kita kena wujudkan amalan-amalan nilai-nilai murni di kalangan masyarakat seluruh Malaysia untuk perpaduan nasional menerusi kedaulatan undang-undang Rukun Negara. Ini juga merupakan aspirasi, pelan dan dasar perpaduan negara 2021 -2030.

Syarat ketat yang dikenakan ke atas skim komuniti berpagar yang tidak formal oleh semua majlis bandaraya /perbandaran di Selangor seperti MBSA, MBPJ, MPK dan MPS adalah tepat sekali dan patut dipuji. Ada sebabnya mengapa semua majlis perbandaran /bandaraya di Selangor telah membuat keputusan ini. Ia dibuat setelah mengambil kira semua faktor termasuk pendapat komuniti secara keseluruhan dan bukannya hanya daripada golongan tertentu sahaja.

Sebagai pihak berkuasa yang bertanggungjawab dan prihatin, dan setelah kajian secara mendalam telah dibuat, pihak majlis telah memutuskan perkara ini. Pujian harus diberi kepada semua pihak majlis tersebut kerana dapat membuat keputusan yang tepat, adil dan berkepentingan komuniti secara holistik. 

Perpaduan masyarakat juga diberi penekanan selain daripada melindungi hak semua penduduk dan komuniti. Keputusan ini juga telah dibuat bagi mencegah golongan tertentu atau pihak yang korup daripada mengambil kesempatan atas nama keselamatan komuniti.

Harus diingat bahawa skim komuniti berpagar tidak formal ini BUKAN suatu 'G&G' yang mempunyai kelulusan rasmi. Ia hanya wujud sekadar skim tanpa paksaan selagi ia tidak menimbulkan masalah kepada komuniti atau sengketa diantara penduduk.

Pengawal keselamatan di semua kediaman (bukan-persendirian) tidak dibenarkan menghalang kenderaan keluar masuk dan mereka tidak dibenarkan meminta dokumen pengenalan orang awam. Sistem kad akses juga tidak dibenarkan kecuali di kediaman atau premis persendirian sahaja. *(Sila rujuk kpd Garis Panduan Majlis dan Pekeliling drp KDN). 

Sekian, terimakasih.

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