The Star reported yesterday that the Shah Alam City Council has amended guidelines for gated-and-guarded schemes to streamline the process and avoid confusion.
Shah Alam city councillor Foong Saik Hoong said the guidelines will “resolve or avoid untoward issues”.
Among the new rules are 100% approval from residents for automated gates and access cards; approval for manual boom gates is 75%; barricades, which must be removable, are only permitted between midnight and 6am; a guard has to be available by the barricade at other times in case of an emergency; security guards are not allowed to take away the motorists’ MyKad or other documents; and fencing is not allowed unless the area is located near a highway, road, river or monsoon drain.
“If there is a need to fence up the area, residents will have to apply to change the land status to strata but this means all maintenance work will be their responsibility instead of the council’s,” Foong told The Star.
Foong also added that this would include road maintenance and rubbish collection.
Foong says there is a high approval requirement because “for it to work, residents associations (RAs) need to be united”.
“The conflict often happens with individuals who have personal agendas.”
Over the years, gating and guarding a development had resulted in quarrels among some residents, with local councils being dragged in, reported The Star.
“The conflict often happens with individuals who have personal agendas,” Foong said.
Reference:
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EdgeProp.my
July 07, 2018
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Below are other similar comments by Selangor residents pertaining to informal GnG schemes in Subang Jaya...
5 comments:
USJ 2 Resident said...
The law is there for a reason, MPSJ should just execute the law. Whether or not G&G is good or bad is not a decision for an individual or even a collection of individuals who work at MPSJ.
All G&G's should be torn down as they are illegal. Placating the dominant few who feel they are right in setting it up is biased. Who audits the validity of approvals that the RA can just easily claim but not easily defend.
The law is there, abide by it.
March 2, 2010 at 9:13 PM
Anonymous said...
Police reports have been made against the illegal blocking of public roads in USJ2, USJ4 Tudor etc but nothing has been done. Recently residents have even protested in front of TV cameras.
This madness to fence up, gate up and taking over of public roads by a few selfish residents has gone out of hands. Many people are angry with the DAP leaders for originally advocating this.
March 8, 2010 at 10:38 AM
Anonymous said...
commitee members are just out to make a fast buck. I am a resident of USJ2 but i don't know who are the committee members & also who elected them? Why must I support an action that is considered illegal. If Rajiv really want to be reappointed in future he must get MPSJ to stop the nonsence. How many residents are willing to accept a $600.00 increase in assessment pa. I am of the opinion that if all agree to an increase in assessment then MPSJ can afford to employ more enforcement officers to overtake security arrangents for subang jaya.having foreigners guarding the neighbourhood is not a solution & having committee members threatening residents who don't support them is extremely bad bad bad
March 11, 2010 at 9:53 PM
rajiv said...
You don't have to pay a single sen if you choose to. Please report incidents where the committee has harassed any resident into paying.
March 11, 2010 at 10:22 PM
USJ 2 Resident said...
Just because payment is optional, it doesn't mean that non-supporters of GnG must tolerate its over-zealous and vigilante neighbours.
MPSJ should abide and execute the law as it stands, personal opinions of its staff are irrelevant. Rajiv, it's obvious to me that you support GnG, otherwise USJ 2 would be barrier free by now.
Isn't there already sufficient evidence or at least doubts that the 85% minimum for support has not been achieved in USJ 2? How can MPSJ trust an RA and its claims? I've never been asked by anyone whether or not I support the GnG. Furthermore, the RA is set up solely for the GnG, obviously by its supporters. In fact, joining the RA requires you to pay an equivalent amount to what the GnG group is asking for. And yet, MPSJ listens to them just because they claim to speak on behalf of the community.
TV3 has covered this incident, residents have signed protests. What more do we need to do as it seems that MPSJ is blindly allowing GnG in USJ 2 just because its councillors stand by the idea?
The law is clear on the matter. I don't pay my assessments and my taxes to fund enforcers and councils to decide on which law to enact. If I as a Malaysian are bound by all laws, so is MPSJ. It really is as simple as that.
March 12, 2010 at 4:02 PM
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Zero objection requirement for new gated and guarded housing applications in Selangor
New applications for gated and guarded communities in Selangor will only be considered provided there is no objection from any of its residents.
Under the new ruling, Yazid said approval could be given to applications with 100% consent from residents from a particular area.
Klang Municipal Council president Datuk Mohd Yazid Bidin, who confirmed receiving the circular, said the new ruling would be implemented in Klang with immediate effect.
Even if there was one objection from a resident, he said the council would not process the application.
The new ruling is with immediate effect following a change in policy by the Selangor state government, which earlier granted approval for gated and guarded applications based on 85% consent.
The State Housing Board sent out circulars to all 12 local authorities on the new ruling.
“However, the council will take the gesture of silence from the residents as consent,” he said, adding that it was up to the residents associations and property owners to sort it out.
Yazid said all the pending gated and guarded applications from various parts of Klang would be put on hold and the applicants would be required to meet the new criteria.
However, he added the ruling for guarded communities remained at 85% consent from the residents.
"I hope the residents asociations will comply with the new ruling,” he said.
METRO NEWS
By Elan Perumal
Friday, 31 Mar 2017
https://www.thestar.com.my/metro
For those residents who feel insecure without having a gated community (GC) scheme in your neighbourhood, then it is not the right residence for you. It is better that you move to a Strata-titled and proper "Gated & Guarded" (GnG) residence like "Eco Ardence" or "Eco Park".
You and your family would feel much safer and secure in such "Strata title" private properties which are also gazetted as Gated Community (GC) by the Local Authorities and Council.
Please do not try to implement a Gated Community (GC) scheme in a non GC neighbourhood.
Please do not try to apply from the Land Office to change the land title from "Individual" title to "Strata" in order to implement a GC scheme. Because this will mean that all maintenance works (such as rubbish collections, drains, maintenance of roads, landscape, streetlights, etc) will no longer be handled by the local council.
Please do not consent or try to form a Residents' Association (RA) to implement a Gated Community (GC) scheme in a non-gazetted GC neighbourhood here.
Please do not implement illegal automated card access system which is prohibited by all local councils in Selangor (unless you have 100% consent from the residents).
Please do not set up any illegal barriers to block any public roads or access to any public parks or children's playground.
Please do not consent or condone to such illegal schemes. You cannot implement a GC scheme legally in a Non-Strata titled neighbourhood.
Please do not leave the security of our neighbourhood to "private security guards" hired by the RA. Please do not erect any guard house or fencing without proper consent and permission from the local authorities.
We rather trust our local police (PDRM) than the "security services" hired and implemented by the RA. The security and safety of our neighbourhood lies beyond the capability of any RA.
And for those residents who think that non-paying residents are like "parasites", then those who consented to these illegal schemes in the first place, are like "the biggest tumour any cancer has ever seen". (The tumour needs to be cut away and removed before the cancer spreads).
Even though stringent guidelines have been published by the relevant authorities, residents have been bullied or taken advantage of by some unscrupulous residents associations (RAs), some believed to be linked to syndicates. Providing "security services" seems to be very lucrative and easy money for these gangs.
This looks like a classic case of unscrupulous people trying to take advantage of the situation or trying to profit from people's lack of information/knowledge.
Residents were being told to set up their own RA to implement Gated Community or Guarded Neighbourhood (GN) scheme even before checking with the local district police OCPD (PDRM) on whether their residence sits on an identified "high crime zone" or not.
The implementation of such schemes have been highly questionable including the laws and legality of it, guidelines, getting the consent and approval from the authorities, the monthly fees, the hiring of qualified licensed guards, using card access system which is prohibited, and the barring of non-paying residents from entering (harassing, bullying and coercing the non-paying residents into paying).
Under the new ruling, Yazid said approval could be given to applications with 100% consent from residents from a particular area.
Klang Municipal Council president Datuk Mohd Yazid Bidin, who confirmed receiving the circular, said the new ruling would be implemented in Klang with immediate effect.
Even if there was one objection from a resident, he said the council would not process the application.
The new ruling is with immediate effect following a change in policy by the Selangor state government, which earlier granted approval for gated and guarded applications based on 85% consent.
The State Housing Board sent out circulars to all 12 local authorities on the new ruling.
“However, the council will take the gesture of silence from the residents as consent,” he said, adding that it was up to the residents associations and property owners to sort it out.
Yazid said all the pending gated and guarded applications from various parts of Klang would be put on hold and the applicants would be required to meet the new criteria.
However, he added the ruling for guarded communities remained at 85% consent from the residents.
"I hope the residents asociations will comply with the new ruling,” he said.
METRO NEWS
By Elan Perumal
Friday, 31 Mar 2017
https://www.thestar.com.my/metro
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For those residents who feel insecure without having a gated community (GC) scheme in your neighbourhood, then it is not the right residence for you. It is better that you move to a Strata-titled and proper "Gated & Guarded" (GnG) residence like "Eco Ardence" or "Eco Park".
You and your family would feel much safer and secure in such "Strata title" private properties which are also gazetted as Gated Community (GC) by the Local Authorities and Council.
Please do not try to implement a Gated Community (GC) scheme in a non GC neighbourhood.
Please do not try to apply from the Land Office to change the land title from "Individual" title to "Strata" in order to implement a GC scheme. Because this will mean that all maintenance works (such as rubbish collections, drains, maintenance of roads, landscape, streetlights, etc) will no longer be handled by the local council.
Please do not consent or try to form a Residents' Association (RA) to implement a Gated Community (GC) scheme in a non-gazetted GC neighbourhood here.
Please do not implement illegal automated card access system which is prohibited by all local councils in Selangor (unless you have 100% consent from the residents).
Please do not set up any illegal barriers to block any public roads or access to any public parks or children's playground.
Please do not consent or condone to such illegal schemes. You cannot implement a GC scheme legally in a Non-Strata titled neighbourhood.
Please do not leave the security of our neighbourhood to "private security guards" hired by the RA. Please do not erect any guard house or fencing without proper consent and permission from the local authorities.
We rather trust our local police (PDRM) than the "security services" hired and implemented by the RA. The security and safety of our neighbourhood lies beyond the capability of any RA.
And for those residents who think that non-paying residents are like "parasites", then those who consented to these illegal schemes in the first place, are like "the biggest tumour any cancer has ever seen". (The tumour needs to be cut away and removed before the cancer spreads).
Even though stringent guidelines have been published by the relevant authorities, residents have been bullied or taken advantage of by some unscrupulous residents associations (RAs), some believed to be linked to syndicates. Providing "security services" seems to be very lucrative and easy money for these gangs.
This looks like a classic case of unscrupulous people trying to take advantage of the situation or trying to profit from people's lack of information/knowledge.
Residents were being told to set up their own RA to implement Gated Community or Guarded Neighbourhood (GN) scheme even before checking with the local district police OCPD (PDRM) on whether their residence sits on an identified "high crime zone" or not.
The implementation of such schemes have been highly questionable including the laws and legality of it, guidelines, getting the consent and approval from the authorities, the monthly fees, the hiring of qualified licensed guards, using card access system which is prohibited, and the barring of non-paying residents from entering (harassing, bullying and coercing the non-paying residents into paying).
