Beware of illegal GC scheme by corrupt RA that is breaking the laws and asking its residents to pay

Beware of illegal GnG schemes by corrupt RAs that are flouting guidelines and making residents pay

Why do we categorized the schemes here as illegal? Because the RAs here have broken all the laws and went against the guidelines given by the local council.

The approved schemes were only meant for Guarded Neighborhood schemes and not for Gated Community schemes. (Even though they were originally legal Guarded Neighborhood schemes, but because the RAs have flouted the laws and guidelines, they have become illegal Gated Community schemes.)

So, hopefully now you understand the actual problem here.

Looks like none of the RAs follow any of the guidelines at all..

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BLOCKING RESIDENTS AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY FROM MOVING IN AND OUT IS UNLAWFUL AND ILLEGAL.

YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO STOP OR ASK ANYONE TO REGISTER FOR ENTERING A NON-PRIVATE RESIDENCE.

GUARDS ASKING FOR ID SUCH AS MYKAD/ D. LICENCE IS AN OFFENCE REPORTABLE TO PDRM.

GnG scheme or scam? Let us keep formal GnG residences private and exclusive. And put a stop to informal "GnG" schemes in public property residences. Informal "GnG" schemes are actually a nuisance and a hindrance in today's society. It is worrying as these illegal schemes are sprouting all over the country.

RAs operating informal schemes have been flouting the laws and causing the communities a lot of disharmony and disunity. Certain group of people with selfish agendas are taking the opportunity to enrich themselves in the name of providing "neighborhood security", which actually looks more like an illegal "toll collection" from the community.

No private facilities to offer and no amenities to maintain, but the RA still want to operate a GnG scheme by hiring private security guards and installing unlawful access card system which the majority of the community do not want.

(ACCESS CARD SYSTEM IS ILLEGAL UNLESS 100% CONSENT IS OBTAINED.

..and fyi all PRIVATE/STRATA properties that are using access card system have 100% consent).

RA illegally blocking public roads, using prohibited access cards and security guards asking for MyKad or driving license for identification, are some of the problems faced by the communities.

Due to the lack of awareness by the public, corrupt RAs have been taking advantage of this grey area to coerce residents to sign up/pay for their bogus schemes that are breaking the laws.

There are a lot of confusion when it comes to this "GnG" subject. This lack of clarity and knowledge by the communities have been used by unscrupulous RAs to bully its non-paying residents and the surrounding communities.

So now people ask... can security guards ask for your MyKad or Driving License for identification (even just for recording purposes)? And the other related question is, can they block public roads or stop you from entering? How about the usage of auto access card system?

When we want to talk about this subject, we need to define first whether we are referring to a formal GC scheme or an informal "GC" scheme? They are both very different and shouldn't be mixed up. There is a big difference between "formal" gated communities and "informal" gated communities...

All "Informal Gated Community" schemes that are operated by Residents Associations (RA) in non-private housing areas are not legal gated communities at all. Actually, these so-called "GnG" schemes implemented by RAs are against the laws and guidelines.

Only "Formal Gated Community" schemes that are managed by Management Corporation (MC) or Joint Management Body (JMB) are legal GnG schemes protected and bound by the Strata Title Act 1985 and the Strata Management Act 2013.

First and foremost, gaining entry into a "private property" such as a formal gated community or a stratified condominium is different from gaining entry to a "public property" such as an informal GnG residence. Both schemes are very different and people ought to know the difference.

Security guards at an "informal gated community" do not have the right to ask visitors for MyKad or driving license. It is against the law and it is an offense (Regulation 7).

In the first place they have no right to block anyone from access to any "public property" residence. It is illegal to block public roads as the roads do not belong to the RA or any particular group of residents. [Sek 80 Akta Pengangkutan Jalan 1987 (Akta 333) dan Sek 46 (1) Akta Jalan, Parit & Bangunan 1974]

The usage of auto access card system at informal GC is also prohibited and illegal.

Only licensed security guards on duty at a "formal gated community" and/ or a stratified condominium have the right to ask visitors for MyKad or driving license for identification and recording purposes. Only formal gated communities (strata or private properties) can legally block roads and implement auto access card system for their residents.

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What your RA won't tell you :-

That it is illegal to block public roads in residential areas (only allowed in private property /residences)
That it is an offense for security guards to ask for I.C. or driving license even for recording purposes only (only allowed in strata or private GC residences)
That auto access card system is prohibited and illegal (only legal in strata and/or formal GC residences)
That they have no right to stop non-participating residents or any law-abiding citizens access
That rightfully, they can only apply for a Guarded Neighbourhood GN scheme (classified as an Informal GC scheme)
That they are required to put up a Notice Board containing all relevant information (please refer below guidelines by one of the local councils)
If they have obtained all the necessary requirements & approvals from the relevant authorities
That all their security guards have license and have undergone all checks, tests and other requirements from KDN
How much money they are making every year from operating these schemes
That they have their own personal selfish agendas to fulfill and are profit driven
How lucrative is this industry and how easy it is for them to bs the residents
That many residents have dropped/opted out of the scheme along the way and they no longer have enough consensus to operate
That their GN scheme approval is actually on a temporary basis
Not only is their scheme unlawful, it is also discouraged by the government and is actually against the National Unity Blueprint
That there are other neighborhood watch schemes such as Rukun Tetangga, Skim Rondaan Sukarela SRS and Community Policing CP that don't cost any monthly fee at all.
Yes... you can guess a few more (or you can read about them from the media)

Know the differences between a formal GC scheme (GC) vs an informal GC scheme (GN):

So far, RAs in public property residences do not (or almost never) adhere to the laws and guidelines when it comes to operating their GN scheme. This is wrong as both schemes are very different. They still implement what are allowed in a GC scheme despite their application /approval is only for a GN scheme. Residents and communities have been duped into their scheme and scam.

Actually the silent majority of the communities here are fed up with unethical and corrupt practices by unscrupulous RAs operating informal GC schemes that are breaking the laws.

If the RAs are sincere in wanting to raise and increase awareness on neighbourhood watch /security, they can also activate Komuniti Rukun Tetangga (KRT) together with Skim Rondaan Sukarela (SRS) which is supported by PDRM and as promoted by the government instead.

It's time the government only allow formal gated communities (GC) in private (or strata) properties. No more informal "GC" schemes by RAs in all non-private property residences. Stop the disharmony and the disunity in all our neighborhoods.

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Regulation 7 of the Peraturan-Peraturan Pendaftaran Kebangsaan 1990 clearly states that security guards (or any persons) are not allowed to conduct checks on your identity, let alone request for any kind of identification documents.

Regulation 7 also explicitly states that only certain officers are allowed to inspect the identity of a person and request the person to produce his/her MyKad for inspection. These officers include:

registration officers (of the National Registration Department of Malaysia or JPN)
police officers (PDRM)
customs officers/ immigration officers
members of the Armed Forces on duty
public officers authorized by the Director General

Pengawal keselamatan yang bertugas di kediaman awam (termasuk di komuniti berpagar yang tidak formal) tidak dibenarkan untuk meminta dokumen identiti seperti MyKad ataupun lesen memandu daripada pihak awam.

Tetapi pengawal keselamatan yang bertugas di premis persendirian (seperti di komuniti berpagar yang formal, kondominium dan bangunan swasta) dibenarkan untuk meminta dokumen identiti pelawat bagi tujuan rekod butiran.

Skim komuniti berpagar jenis "formal" dan jenis "tidak formal" adalah tidak sama. Pelaksanaan kedua-dua jenis skim komuniti ini harus dibezakan. Komuniti berpagar formal adalah skim yang lebih senang diurus kerana ia adalah sejenis skim perumahan swasta yang memiliki hakmilik stratanya sendiri.

Peruntukan Peraturan 7 Peraturan-Peraturan Pendaftaran Kebangsaan 1990 memperuntukkan bahawa hanya seorang pegawai pendaftaran, pegawai polis, pegawai kastam, pegawai tentera atau pegawai lain yang diberi kuasa bertulis oleh Ketua Pengarah Pendaftaran sahaja yang dibenarkan untuk meminta dan memeriksa identiti seseorang dengan mengemukakan kad pengenalan.

"Syarikat Kawalan Keselamatan hanya boleh meminta dokumen identiti pelawat semata-mata bagi tujuan semakan dan rekod kemasukan ke premis persendirian dan kemudian mengembalikannya kepada pelawat selepas identiti mereka direkodkan."

(Terimakasih & Penghargaan kpd KDN)
http://www.moha.gov.my/images/maklumat_perkhidmatan/pekeliling_agensi_persendirian/pekeliling_4.pdf

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Kepada semua RA yang melaksanakan skim kawalan perumahan informal di Klang... sila rujuk kepada garis panduan MPK seperti tertera di bawah:

1). Tidak dibenarkan menghalang kenderaan keluar/masuk ke kawasan berkenaan.

2). Penghuni yang tidak menyertai skim ini tidak boleh dihalang sama sekali memasuki kediaman mereka pada bila-bila masa.

3). Penggunaan kad akses (automatic) dilarang sama sekali.

*Sumber: MPK (Terima kasih & Penghargaan kpd MPK!)

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"Both the GnG schemes must be differentiated as they are not the same..."

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Here is Another Reason Why We Don't Support "Informal GnG Schemes"...

Only Komuniti Rukun Tetangga (KRT) together with Skim Rondaan Sukarela (SRS) that are backed by PDRM, are genuine neighbourhood watch schemes endorsed by the Government of Malaysia. Do not fall prey to syndicates and unscrupulous RAs.

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